1 00:00:04,070 --> 00:00:02,240 hi everybody I'm bill burns yeah nancy 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:04,080 burns hear a word from future theater 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:06,569 and you know we like to listen to mmm 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:12,170 radio on sunday nights at 9pm 9pm what 5 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:15,210 o.o the best network on the whole entire 6 00:00:20,660 --> 00:00:18,090 internet inception radio network you're 7 00:01:07,210 --> 00:00:20,670 locked into inception radio network 8 00:01:18,060 --> 00:01:11,020 now get ready to have your radio go 9 00:01:23,919 --> 00:01:20,740 welcome to paying radio tonight is 10 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:23,929 December 7 2014 a sunday night of course 11 00:01:28,779 --> 00:01:26,450 welcome to paying radio I'm here with my 12 00:01:30,929 --> 00:01:28,789 co-host mr. Ken Storch we are happy to 13 00:01:34,510 --> 00:01:30,939 be back after a two-week hiatus oh 14 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:34,520 absolutely oh yeah oh yeah you know ken 15 00:01:38,859 --> 00:01:37,130 got to travel little and I got to do we 16 00:01:41,469 --> 00:01:38,869 all got to do the holidays thanksgiving 17 00:01:43,749 --> 00:01:41,479 i hope everyone had some good turkey and 18 00:01:45,910 --> 00:01:43,759 can we are not turkey people i made the 19 00:01:48,849 --> 00:01:45,920 best ham with a whiskey glaze on it so 20 00:01:51,490 --> 00:01:48,859 it was really good hey I'm you know what 21 00:01:55,089 --> 00:01:51,500 there's very few things that I will not 22 00:01:56,350 --> 00:01:55,099 eat and I'm omnivorous I'll need 23 00:02:00,309 --> 00:01:56,360 anything and that sounds absolutely 24 00:02:03,130 --> 00:02:00,319 delicious okay if you ever had a turkey 25 00:02:05,649 --> 00:02:03,140 fried in peanut oil I have that is that 26 00:02:06,969 --> 00:02:05,659 is another good way to yeah I turned I 27 00:02:09,369 --> 00:02:06,979 like that you know it's not traditional 28 00:02:11,550 --> 00:02:09,379 in the sense that you know mom used to 29 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:11,560 do but I'll tell you what it's not bad 30 00:02:17,589 --> 00:02:15,680 no it is not yeah we had a toda actually 31 00:02:18,970 --> 00:02:17,599 had a note at a barbecue in the summer 32 00:02:20,949 --> 00:02:18,980 one time at a friend's house but they 33 00:02:23,140 --> 00:02:20,959 pull up their little VAT poured in the 34 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:23,150 peanut oil and that it was a lot better 35 00:02:26,050 --> 00:02:24,650 than I think thought it would be I would 36 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:26,060 rather eat it that way and put in the 37 00:02:33,250 --> 00:02:30,889 oven yeah um you know I've had kahlua 38 00:02:36,309 --> 00:02:33,260 turkey too and I'll tell you what that's 39 00:02:39,069 --> 00:02:36,319 that's a Hawaiian recipe it's not bad 40 00:02:41,650 --> 00:02:39,079 it's pretty damn good can you got it any 41 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:41,660 shoutouts for anybody I do I would just 42 00:02:49,030 --> 00:02:45,410 one shout out to chance and Mindy and 43 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:49,040 Larry and George and Doug and I think 44 00:02:53,349 --> 00:02:51,169 Marilyn and dicker listening and I think 45 00:02:55,839 --> 00:02:53,359 one is listening to I want to say hi and 46 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:55,849 to some of the people up there in 47 00:02:59,500 --> 00:02:58,010 upstate New York there you go perfect 48 00:03:01,509 --> 00:02:59,510 i'd like to say it hello all our 49 00:03:03,009 --> 00:03:01,519 listeners all over the world la 50 00:03:05,349 --> 00:03:03,019 supporting paying radio and the 51 00:03:07,539 --> 00:03:05,359 inception radio network we definitely 52 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:07,549 appreciate you all listening if it 53 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:09,410 wasn't for you this network would not be 54 00:03:15,849 --> 00:03:12,169 here and we try to bring you the latest 55 00:03:17,409 --> 00:03:15,859 and latest news on guess or even crop 56 00:03:20,259 --> 00:03:17,419 circles Nancy's been researching for 57 00:03:21,729 --> 00:03:20,269 over 25 years so tonight tonight when we 58 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:21,739 bring her on in about five minutes we're 59 00:03:25,780 --> 00:03:22,730 going to be covering the the 60 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:25,790 metaphysical side of crop circles UFOs 61 00:03:29,740 --> 00:03:28,610 balls of light and even a Dutch man that 62 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:29,750 can predict where they're going to next 63 00:03:34,530 --> 00:03:31,310 one's going to be so that's 64 00:03:37,270 --> 00:03:34,540 I have some good questions for that I 65 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:37,280 know I've got a lot of questions from 66 00:03:42,699 --> 00:03:40,310 the last show okay but it's absolutely 67 00:03:44,949 --> 00:03:42,709 you know what it's a fascinating subject 68 00:03:47,589 --> 00:03:44,959 I don't have an explanation for it so 69 00:03:49,780 --> 00:03:47,599 I'm I'm open to Nancy's interpretation 70 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:49,790 of the evidence right right in the last 71 00:03:53,770 --> 00:03:51,650 actually excuse me two weeks ago she 72 00:03:55,630 --> 00:03:53,780 went over a lot of the scientific 73 00:03:59,170 --> 00:03:55,640 evidence you know the soil the the 74 00:04:01,839 --> 00:03:59,180 formation of you know the Formica and 75 00:04:03,309 --> 00:04:01,849 ball and beads and then the nodes are 76 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:03,319 you know exploding I mean there's a lot 77 00:04:07,390 --> 00:04:05,810 of scientific evidence there but it be 78 00:04:10,330 --> 00:04:07,400 it's going to be really neat tonight to 79 00:04:12,630 --> 00:04:10,340 listen to the the metaphysical side and 80 00:04:15,340 --> 00:04:12,640 why that why the hell they're showing up 81 00:04:18,219 --> 00:04:15,350 yeah I would there's got to be a motive 82 00:04:19,930 --> 00:04:18,229 right oh yeah definitely and I see chats 83 00:04:22,060 --> 00:04:19,940 pretty slow tonight sunday night uh 84 00:04:23,770 --> 00:04:22,070 who's playing football tonight I wanted 85 00:04:27,690 --> 00:04:23,780 Tirzah cookie they're Patriots and the 86 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:27,700 San Diego charge I i I'd rather be here 87 00:04:33,219 --> 00:04:31,370 and it will be a good game good game I 88 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:33,229 usually after the after the show can i 89 00:04:37,390 --> 00:04:34,610 usually go turn it on if it's a close 90 00:04:39,010 --> 00:04:37,400 game alternate wash yeah you know I have 91 00:04:42,340 --> 00:04:39,020 to be honest with you I can't take a 92 00:04:45,420 --> 00:04:42,350 whole day of football right I there may 93 00:04:48,340 --> 00:04:45,430 be one or two games that I like to catch 94 00:04:50,170 --> 00:04:48,350 but I don't watch the entire game no no 95 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:50,180 I have yet to see an entire bronco game 96 00:04:54,159 --> 00:04:52,370 and that's the truth i watch and i'm a 97 00:04:55,930 --> 00:04:54,169 bronco fan but i'll watch a whole packer 98 00:04:57,580 --> 00:04:55,940 game but if there's a secondary game on 99 00:04:59,950 --> 00:04:57,590 like today i was watching the vikings 100 00:05:01,480 --> 00:04:59,960 and spurts in the lions game and don't 101 00:05:02,890 --> 00:05:01,490 really i mean i'll have it on in the 102 00:05:03,940 --> 00:05:02,900 hall says I'm doing something I'll hear 103 00:05:05,950 --> 00:05:03,950 in the background 104 00:05:08,050 --> 00:05:05,960 now I can't sit well it's hard to me he 105 00:05:09,670 --> 00:05:08,060 said watch another team unless I really 106 00:05:12,490 --> 00:05:09,680 want them to lose in the pack it's to 107 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:12,500 the packs advantage hey I understand 108 00:05:18,850 --> 00:05:15,890 that they restrict drones within three 109 00:05:22,060 --> 00:05:18,860 miles of any national football league 110 00:05:26,770 --> 00:05:22,070 stadium levels in play is that is that 111 00:05:29,710 --> 00:05:26,780 correct wow really yeah yeah you know 112 00:05:32,380 --> 00:05:29,720 very interesting yeah and I was just 113 00:05:36,850 --> 00:05:32,390 reading an article about you know MJ 114 00:05:39,250 --> 00:05:36,860 about drones and artificial intelligence 115 00:05:41,530 --> 00:05:39,260 computers and you know I have said this 116 00:05:43,090 --> 00:05:41,540 for years that's like peanut butter and 117 00:05:47,010 --> 00:05:43,100 jelly pizza and beer there you go 118 00:05:49,570 --> 00:05:47,020 together mm-hmm in this case too well I 119 00:05:51,940 --> 00:05:49,580 think that's a very dangerous road to go 120 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:51,950 down is turning over drone that's going 121 00:05:58,860 --> 00:05:54,430 to be controlled by its own brain 122 00:06:02,770 --> 00:05:58,870 supposedly you know yeah program with a 123 00:06:05,770 --> 00:06:02,780 kill switch built-in okay what could 124 00:06:07,330 --> 00:06:05,780 possibly go wrong with this idea yeah 125 00:06:09,250 --> 00:06:07,340 yeah that's just like the Terminator 126 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:09,260 happening all over i mean it's it's like 127 00:06:13,180 --> 00:06:10,970 some of these movies are predicting some 128 00:06:16,540 --> 00:06:13,190 of our future here well i think you know 129 00:06:18,310 --> 00:06:16,550 i carry i've got several acres that i 130 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:18,320 have here northeast oklahoma i live in 131 00:06:23,230 --> 00:06:20,690 real quiet part of it and I you know I 132 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:23,240 started carrying a rifle with me on the 133 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:25,970 four wheeler for the strict purpose of 134 00:06:34,630 --> 00:06:28,330 shooting a drone if it's on my property 135 00:06:36,370 --> 00:06:34,640 hmm ah cool hey dirt feet what is it 136 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:36,380 Deerfield Colorado I think the mayor 137 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:38,330 they pass an ordinance that they're 138 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:39,770 gonna have a drone season if they see 139 00:06:45,190 --> 00:06:41,690 him in there they can shoot them that is 140 00:06:47,380 --> 00:06:45,200 awesome hey to you but if you're gonna 141 00:06:49,180 --> 00:06:47,390 fly them they become legitimate target 142 00:06:50,740 --> 00:06:49,190 right right i mean yet that that that 143 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:50,750 that is correct i mean if it's on your 144 00:06:54,490 --> 00:06:52,880 own property i mean you know the if it's 145 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:54,500 if it's a danger do you shoot it all the 146 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:55,970 sky well that a you know what there's 147 00:07:00,850 --> 00:06:58,010 the key phrase right there MJ that you 148 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:00,860 know it hey if it's capable of flying 149 00:07:04,510 --> 00:07:02,690 it's capable of being a weapon we've 150 00:07:06,190 --> 00:07:04,520 already proved that held the president 151 00:07:09,070 --> 00:07:06,200 nited states is killing people left and 152 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:09,080 right with drones hmm the right right 153 00:07:13,780 --> 00:07:11,330 you know so why couldn't you have a 154 00:07:17,450 --> 00:07:13,790 smaller version of a you know predator 155 00:07:19,670 --> 00:07:17,460 type drone armed with a 22 rounds 156 00:07:21,140 --> 00:07:19,680 or you know some kind of shotgun round 157 00:07:23,689 --> 00:07:21,150 or something like that it could become 158 00:07:25,700 --> 00:07:23,699 they could become a very lethal weapon 159 00:07:27,129 --> 00:07:25,710 you gotta think too i mean you shoot 160 00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:27,139 wanted them down you you're getting 161 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:29,759 possible government hardware to stop 162 00:07:35,689 --> 00:07:32,490 secret stuff i mean that's that's going 163 00:07:38,059 --> 00:07:35,699 to have some alphabet agencies at your 164 00:07:40,610 --> 00:07:38,069 house a pretty quick yeah that would 165 00:07:42,620 --> 00:07:40,620 have to private to do some singing and 166 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:42,630 dancing around that one I'm sure oh yeah 167 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:44,849 they probably be there well and hate and 168 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:46,530 I'm one of those that think that you 169 00:07:52,939 --> 00:07:48,690 know I'm here we know that government 170 00:07:55,189 --> 00:07:52,949 agencies use them okay they're there the 171 00:07:57,860 --> 00:07:55,199 military is really into drones and the 172 00:08:01,850 --> 00:07:57,870 private sector is becoming I mean they 173 00:08:04,430 --> 00:08:01,860 offer some really advantages oh yeah you 174 00:08:06,589 --> 00:08:04,440 know airborne I in the sky yeah yeah 175 00:08:07,999 --> 00:08:06,599 we're being watched that's just what I 176 00:08:09,499 --> 00:08:08,009 tell people at the end of the show keep 177 00:08:12,589 --> 00:08:09,509 an eye to the sky because there's a lot 178 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:12,599 going on not just flying saucers and et 179 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:14,610 there's a whole lot more going on in the 180 00:08:18,350 --> 00:08:16,650 sky people should be looking upwards and 181 00:08:19,969 --> 00:08:18,360 not down at the ground so much there's a 182 00:08:23,210 --> 00:08:19,979 lot of eyes looking back at us that we 183 00:08:25,399 --> 00:08:23,220 don't know of yeah absolutely well let's 184 00:08:26,930 --> 00:08:25,409 bring it away yeah let's bring in Nancy 185 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:26,940 here let's call her and bring her in 186 00:08:33,079 --> 00:08:30,570 live here we go skype has been updated 187 00:08:35,350 --> 00:08:33,089 tonight folks so uh I've got it under 188 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:35,360 control but it looks a lot different 189 00:08:43,010 --> 00:08:40,169 it's not too hard to manage yeah that's 190 00:08:44,690 --> 00:08:43,020 what a pilot says yeah we're calling 191 00:08:47,300 --> 00:08:44,700 Nancy but I don't hear a ring tone so 192 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:47,310 this could be hopefully this isn't a 193 00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:50,880 skype issue hello good evening Nancy 194 00:08:56,540 --> 00:08:53,910 welcome to paying radio again hello and 195 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:56,550 how are you guys tonight we are doing 196 00:09:02,389 --> 00:08:58,320 excellent how are you over on the east 197 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:02,399 coast there plow fine no snow not too 198 00:09:06,769 --> 00:09:05,370 cold you know life's good well we'll 199 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:06,779 wait a couple of days we'll change that 200 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:12,170 tonight we're going to talk about Robert 201 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:14,490 right yeah let's let's get into it right 202 00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:17,730 now let's let's do it all right well 203 00:09:24,110 --> 00:09:20,670 I've got a program organized here that I 204 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:24,120 think for help the first thing you need 205 00:09:32,750 --> 00:09:26,970 to do is go to the blg website DLC 206 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:32,760 research com okay we're they get there 207 00:09:40,069 --> 00:09:36,050 on the left hand side there's a menu and 208 00:09:44,990 --> 00:09:40,079 you want to click on van den Broeck case 209 00:09:50,629 --> 00:09:45,000 it's the fifth or sixth thing down 7th 210 00:09:53,930 --> 00:09:50,639 actually got him okay what we've got 211 00:09:55,970 --> 00:09:53,940 here is a basic introduction of I've 212 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:55,980 known him been working with this case 213 00:10:01,340 --> 00:09:58,490 it's without question the most 214 00:10:03,259 --> 00:10:01,350 interesting thing that's going on in the 215 00:10:06,410 --> 00:10:03,269 crop circle world and has been for some 216 00:10:08,269 --> 00:10:06,420 time oh this is the only guy in the 217 00:10:10,579 --> 00:10:08,279 world who can who knows when they're 218 00:10:12,710 --> 00:10:10,589 coming but I've got an introduction 219 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:12,720 there which describes some of my early 220 00:10:17,810 --> 00:10:15,510 experiences there's a video with his 221 00:10:20,180 --> 00:10:17,820 sisters and parents talking about some 222 00:10:21,889 --> 00:10:20,190 of what they've seen if you scroll down 223 00:10:24,310 --> 00:10:21,899 you'll see some of the photographs of 224 00:10:26,660 --> 00:10:24,320 crop circles you know behind his house 225 00:10:29,780 --> 00:10:26,670 some of the sampling that we've done 226 00:10:31,699 --> 00:10:29,790 graph showing the kind of results but I 227 00:10:35,780 --> 00:10:31,709 want you to keep scrolling all the way 228 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:35,790 down until you see a video the one love 229 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:39,600 video mms nice it on a step of a guitar 230 00:10:47,509 --> 00:10:43,890 mm-hmm and beneath that are all of these 231 00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:47,519 individual reports that describe of the 232 00:10:53,389 --> 00:10:50,160 huge variety of events that go on around 233 00:10:55,759 --> 00:10:53,399 him including the discovery of crop 234 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:55,769 circles etc many other things and I 235 00:11:00,889 --> 00:10:57,930 wanted to start it's the first thing 236 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:00,899 that the thing that got me involved and 237 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:03,240 if you scroll down through those reports 238 00:11:09,129 --> 00:11:05,100 you're going to keep going down and down 239 00:11:12,930 --> 00:11:09,139 and down to the picture of his face 240 00:11:18,170 --> 00:11:12,940 October 2006 241 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:23,820 god it's got it yep okay the very first 242 00:11:30,030 --> 00:11:26,170 part here describes this business of me 243 00:11:33,150 --> 00:11:30,040 first getting involved oh I heard about 244 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:33,160 him in 1996 one of our field workers and 245 00:11:38,460 --> 00:11:35,260 the Netherlands had called me to tell me 246 00:11:42,390 --> 00:11:38,470 that he had just heard about this young 247 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:42,400 kid Robert was 15 or 16 at the time who 248 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:45,490 had never heard of crop circles but he 249 00:11:52,350 --> 00:11:48,010 had been out on his bike going along the 250 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:52,360 dikes one afternoon and had actually 251 00:12:00,000 --> 00:11:55,690 witnessed light balls forming a crop 252 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:00,010 circle and I was told this and I you 253 00:12:03,390 --> 00:12:01,330 know being very interested in the 254 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:03,400 science at that point I didn't really 255 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:06,250 take it too seriously I kind of filed in 256 00:12:11,910 --> 00:12:09,490 the back you know but then in 1997 I got 257 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:11,920 another call from the same field worker 258 00:12:18,030 --> 00:12:15,040 saying that this time a huge glowing 259 00:12:21,510 --> 00:12:18,040 ball of light had approached this kids 260 00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:21,520 there's a small balcony off the back of 261 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:23,830 the house where he lives and it's off of 262 00:12:30,180 --> 00:12:27,610 his bedroom now this house backs up to a 263 00:12:33,270 --> 00:12:30,190 farm field it's a very rural area of 264 00:12:35,940 --> 00:12:33,280 southern Holland and it's mostly farming 265 00:12:41,190 --> 00:12:35,950 this is a tiny little village with a 266 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:41,200 small development along a long field you 267 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:44,050 know a farm field there and Robert and 268 00:12:48,150 --> 00:12:45,850 his younger sister Madeleine had been 269 00:12:50,940 --> 00:12:48,160 apparently in his bedroom listening to 270 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:50,950 music and this huge ball of light had 271 00:12:57,390 --> 00:12:53,730 suddenly appeared immediately outside 272 00:13:00,660 --> 00:12:57,400 these Florida ceiling glass doors that 273 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:00,670 looked out from his bedroom onto this 274 00:13:06,930 --> 00:13:03,850 tiny little balcony and beyond that was 275 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:06,940 the farm field they had been frightened 276 00:13:11,970 --> 00:13:09,250 by this ball of light and went running 277 00:13:14,250 --> 00:13:11,980 downstairs to get their parents and when 278 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:14,260 they came back up the ball of light was 279 00:13:20,310 --> 00:13:17,140 gone but there were burn marks on the 280 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:20,320 eaves overhanging that balcony there 281 00:13:25,530 --> 00:13:22,570 were burn marks on the outsides of the 282 00:13:26,790 --> 00:13:25,540 doors and there was a pile of white 283 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:26,800 powder 284 00:13:30,990 --> 00:13:28,330 and the first picture you see there 285 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:31,000 underneath Roberts is a picture of this 286 00:13:37,380 --> 00:13:33,610 white powder on the floor of that 287 00:13:41,310 --> 00:13:37,390 balcony now Roberts parents are 288 00:13:43,980 --> 00:13:41,320 middle-class father was a banker in fact 289 00:13:45,949 --> 00:13:43,990 uh managed one of the willow banks one 290 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:45,959 of this is the major bank of Holland 291 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:49,839 obviously people not inclined in a 292 00:13:56,269 --> 00:13:53,290 mystical direction very pragmatic I 293 00:13:59,639 --> 00:13:56,279 would say and the father the banker 294 00:14:01,920 --> 00:13:59,649 wanted to find out if that white powder 295 00:14:04,350 --> 00:14:01,930 could be analyzed and that's why the 296 00:14:05,730 --> 00:14:04,360 field worker was calling me because we 297 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:05,740 have all of these scientists you know 298 00:14:11,699 --> 00:14:08,290 who consult with the blt research work 299 00:14:13,470 --> 00:14:11,709 and so I said yes of course we could do 300 00:14:16,470 --> 00:14:13,480 it but they'd have to get me a sample 301 00:14:18,990 --> 00:14:16,480 and the details of the event and they 302 00:14:20,610 --> 00:14:19,000 did and sent it off and we did do an 303 00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:20,620 analysis and if you scroll down a little 304 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:23,350 bit farther you're going to see infrared 305 00:14:32,300 --> 00:14:27,730 spectroscopy graphs which indicated that 306 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:32,310 this material was magnesium carbonate 307 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:36,130 now let's go back to the main menu again 308 00:14:45,780 --> 00:14:40,690 go back to Robert's page and scroll down 309 00:14:48,630 --> 00:14:45,790 again to these reports because this time 310 00:14:51,540 --> 00:14:48,640 we're going to go to the report listed 311 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:51,550 as a picture of white powder in a crop 312 00:15:00,510 --> 00:14:56,850 circle and the date on that is july 2010 313 00:15:04,350 --> 00:15:00,520 ok is 99.9 he sent ninety-nine percent 314 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:04,360 pure hydro magnesite mmm got it got that 315 00:15:10,650 --> 00:15:08,560 ok open that up now this white powder 316 00:15:13,290 --> 00:15:10,660 has occurred many times in a number of 317 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:13,300 crop circles and I just wanted to show 318 00:15:19,170 --> 00:15:15,850 you how thoroughly this particular 319 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:19,180 incident was analyzed if you scroll down 320 00:15:24,660 --> 00:15:22,570 past the pictures of the light balls and 321 00:15:26,970 --> 00:15:24,670 all the other stuff you're going to get 322 00:15:28,980 --> 00:15:26,980 down to see a picture of a man holding a 323 00:15:32,130 --> 00:15:28,990 newspaper in which is a sample of the 324 00:15:34,079 --> 00:15:32,140 white powder we knew that magnesium 325 00:15:36,660 --> 00:15:34,089 carbonate doesn't burn and this is a 326 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:36,670 dutch guy who had collected some of and 327 00:15:40,510 --> 00:15:38,890 he was trying to burn it but it didn't 328 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:40,520 burn as we had said 329 00:15:45,460 --> 00:15:42,560 if you scroll down farther you're going 330 00:15:49,350 --> 00:15:45,470 to see something says frontier analysis 331 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:49,360 limited this is Phyllis Budinger is a 332 00:15:56,140 --> 00:15:52,850 laboratory in Ohio and she was the first 333 00:15:58,510 --> 00:15:56,150 person that we sent the material to to 334 00:16:01,210 --> 00:15:58,520 get an analysis and if you scroll down 335 00:16:04,180 --> 00:16:01,220 to where it says results you will see 336 00:16:07,620 --> 00:16:04,190 infrared analysis and then the spectrum 337 00:16:11,110 --> 00:16:07,630 again showing you to dis white powder is 338 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:11,120 magnesium carbonate to perfect match for 339 00:16:18,340 --> 00:16:14,450 it but we wanted to know more magnesium 340 00:16:19,780 --> 00:16:18,350 carbonate is not unusual it's not 341 00:16:23,530 --> 00:16:19,790 something you would find is lying around 342 00:16:25,180 --> 00:16:23,540 anywhere and magnesium oxide is what you 343 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:25,190 would expect to see in a flair for 344 00:16:30,940 --> 00:16:27,770 instance but this was not magnesium 345 00:16:33,420 --> 00:16:30,950 oxide magnesium carbonate so we then 346 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:33,430 asked for something called an isotopic 347 00:16:40,930 --> 00:16:38,210 analysis icp-ms and what we were looking 348 00:16:43,630 --> 00:16:40,940 there is to see exactly how much 349 00:16:46,870 --> 00:16:43,640 magnesium was in the sample and what 350 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:46,880 else was in it we also did something 351 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:49,610 called a semi quantitative analysis 352 00:16:57,220 --> 00:16:54,890 showing us in a more detailed degree the 353 00:16:59,650 --> 00:16:57,230 amount of magnesium myanna calcium and 354 00:17:02,800 --> 00:16:59,660 whatever else may have been in the other 355 00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:02,810 elements in this stuff and then finally 356 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:04,310 if you go down a little bit farther 357 00:17:11,350 --> 00:17:08,089 you're going to see under the addendum 358 00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:11,360 this is beneath a picture again of the 359 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:16,370 white powder in the grass we actually 360 00:17:22,750 --> 00:17:19,970 got a guy at the USGS a doctor everal 361 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:22,760 who works with us now the geologist done 362 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:25,970 a mineralogist and I asked him if he 363 00:17:31,450 --> 00:17:28,970 could do x-ray diffraction and I knew 364 00:17:33,910 --> 00:17:31,460 the results from all of these tests 365 00:17:36,550 --> 00:17:33,920 would give us a lot more information and 366 00:17:39,250 --> 00:17:36,560 it turned out that what in fact this 367 00:17:41,170 --> 00:17:39,260 material was and all of the other 368 00:17:44,260 --> 00:17:41,180 samples it turns out because we 369 00:17:46,750 --> 00:17:44,270 resubmitted them also for additional 370 00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:46,760 testing turned out to be this 371 00:17:52,380 --> 00:17:50,110 ninety-nine point nine nine percent pure 372 00:17:55,100 --> 00:17:52,390 magnesium car 373 00:17:59,850 --> 00:17:55,110 need or hydro magnesite as it's called 374 00:18:03,270 --> 00:17:59,860 now the purity level of this is what is 375 00:18:05,850 --> 00:18:03,280 so utterly bizarre none of these 376 00:18:09,270 --> 00:18:05,860 scientists could offer any idea as to 377 00:18:11,610 --> 00:18:09,280 how a material of this purity level this 378 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:11,620 is laboratory grade hydro magnesite 379 00:18:18,540 --> 00:18:15,130 could possibly have appeared on this 380 00:18:20,580 --> 00:18:18,550 balcony in southern Holland in 381 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:20,590 conjunction with the appearance of the 382 00:18:27,630 --> 00:18:23,770 light ball okay now we go back to 383 00:18:29,370 --> 00:18:27,640 robert's main page again and we're going 384 00:18:33,150 --> 00:18:29,380 to talk about an even more extraordinary 385 00:18:35,370 --> 00:18:33,160 incident again of this white powder this 386 00:18:37,770 --> 00:18:35,380 much more recent you're going to see a 387 00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:37,780 picture of a butterfly it's actually a 388 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:41,950 moth sitting on a table covered in the 389 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:47,130 white powder November 2013 yep got it 390 00:18:55,290 --> 00:18:52,090 okay now this is about as bizarre as it 391 00:18:58,620 --> 00:18:55,300 gets it may take a second open as a PDF 392 00:19:01,460 --> 00:18:58,630 file but this is one of the incidents of 393 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:01,470 the same white powder it turns out 394 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:05,280 appearing inside Roberts home one night 395 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:08,200 he had been up as he always does he's a 396 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:10,570 night person and is usually up all night 397 00:19:16,740 --> 00:19:13,570 long and he'd been downstairs as is his 398 00:19:18,870 --> 00:19:16,750 habit but hadn't felt any particular 399 00:19:21,810 --> 00:19:18,880 energy which he normally does if 400 00:19:23,550 --> 00:19:21,820 something's going on and I guess he went 401 00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:23,560 up to bed five six o'clock in the 402 00:19:28,530 --> 00:19:26,080 morning and i was around five o'clock 403 00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:28,540 because an hour later his elder sister 404 00:19:34,170 --> 00:19:32,440 saskia arose and went through the living 405 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:34,180 room to go to the kitchen unit to fix 406 00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:38,170 some coffee and found this huge Atlas 407 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:44,160 moth lying on the table and this is in 408 00:19:51,870 --> 00:19:48,850 January i'm almost sure yeah it's 409 00:19:53,580 --> 00:19:51,880 january 11th in 2010 this is in the 410 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:53,590 middle of winter the white powder 411 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:56,050 scattered all over the place she didn't 412 00:19:59,610 --> 00:19:57,730 touch it but her parents when they got 413 00:20:02,280 --> 00:19:59,620 up you know nobody touched it all it 414 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:02,290 took photographs etc and then called me 415 00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:05,650 to tell me about it the house that 416 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:07,710 mrs. Roberts parents home at this time 417 00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:12,490 is built like a like Fort Knox it's it 418 00:20:18,330 --> 00:20:15,760 is locked within an inch of its life at 419 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:18,340 night the windows and the downstairs do 420 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:21,250 not open they're all sealed the front 421 00:20:25,620 --> 00:20:22,810 door is locked with three or four locks 422 00:20:27,420 --> 00:20:25,630 everything's locked and there's no way 423 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:27,430 that anybody could get in there without 424 00:20:31,620 --> 00:20:29,050 the parents knowing because their 425 00:20:36,300 --> 00:20:31,630 bedrooms on the first floor very near 426 00:20:40,590 --> 00:20:36,310 the front door and yet here is this loss 427 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:40,600 which turns out to be from Indonesia it 428 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:43,330 does not live in holland ever and it 429 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:45,250 definitely doesn't live in holland in 430 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:47,200 the middle in freezing cold weather you 431 00:20:52,590 --> 00:20:49,810 know right and here here it is perfectly 432 00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:52,600 intact it's dead but perfectly intact 433 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:55,200 and again covered with the white powder 434 00:20:59,310 --> 00:20:57,730 now if you scroll down a little bit and 435 00:21:01,650 --> 00:20:59,320 start looking for pictures you're going 436 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:01,660 to see that on this table there's a 437 00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:05,410 ceramic vase with some plastic going on 438 00:21:10,650 --> 00:21:07,120 there not plastic they were there cloth 439 00:21:13,500 --> 00:21:10,660 stake flowers you know pink roses hmm 440 00:21:15,780 --> 00:21:13,510 and it was then noticed that these pink 441 00:21:19,290 --> 00:21:15,790 roses and if you keep scrolling down 442 00:21:23,850 --> 00:21:19,300 you'll see close-ups were burned all 443 00:21:25,740 --> 00:21:23,860 around the edges of the petals got that 444 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:25,750 picture the one that shows the close-up 445 00:21:35,130 --> 00:21:32,050 yep now again magnesium carbonate one of 446 00:21:38,580 --> 00:21:35,140 the purposes that it's used for we as 447 00:21:41,850 --> 00:21:38,590 humans use it for is as a fire retardant 448 00:21:44,550 --> 00:21:41,860 it's often found in fire extinguishers 449 00:21:47,670 --> 00:21:44,560 and I've wondered for a long time 450 00:21:50,910 --> 00:21:47,680 whether its presence in the crop circles 451 00:21:53,970 --> 00:21:50,920 and given the burning on the outside of 452 00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:53,980 Roberts of balcony on that first 453 00:22:02,340 --> 00:21:58,720 incident was it present in order to stop 454 00:22:04,590 --> 00:22:02,350 any real fire from starting now if you 455 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:04,600 keep scrolling down you're going to the 456 00:22:10,530 --> 00:22:06,250 next picture is going to show you these 457 00:22:13,050 --> 00:22:10,540 burn marks that were found on the frame 458 00:22:16,130 --> 00:22:13,060 of one of the windows that is directly 459 00:22:19,170 --> 00:22:16,140 behind where this table was sitting and 460 00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:19,180 apparently the burn marks were caused 461 00:22:26,460 --> 00:22:22,150 at the same time that the moth appear 462 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:26,470 and the white powder we also found white 463 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:29,050 powder on the floor directly underneath 464 00:22:35,790 --> 00:22:34,030 those burn marks on the frame and the 465 00:22:38,790 --> 00:22:35,800 next picture down shows you the white 466 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:38,800 powder really just all over one of those 467 00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:43,330 roses I see them now beneath that we 468 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:45,760 have all of the analysis again the 469 00:22:51,330 --> 00:22:48,010 infrared spectra which again show us 470 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:51,340 that is the magnesium you know carbonate 471 00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:54,130 the x-ray diffraction work etc and we 472 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:56,260 were sure again that this was this 473 00:23:03,360 --> 00:22:58,770 ninety-nine point nine nine percent pure 474 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:03,370 hydro magnesite well it was quite 475 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:05,170 exciting because nothing like this had 476 00:23:11,340 --> 00:23:08,410 happened before and Robert has a friend 477 00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:11,350 in Holland who now is the guy who does 478 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:13,390 takes all the photographs of the crop 479 00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:16,570 circles and he called this guy whose 480 00:23:21,810 --> 00:23:19,600 name is Roy and why came over to see 481 00:23:23,340 --> 00:23:21,820 this also the family doesn't touch 482 00:23:26,820 --> 00:23:23,350 anything until it's all very well 483 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:26,830 documented and was Roy was terribly 484 00:23:31,890 --> 00:23:28,930 excited he was really thrilled about the 485 00:23:35,850 --> 00:23:31,900 whole thing and while he was there with 486 00:23:39,150 --> 00:23:35,860 Robert photographing all of this he went 487 00:23:40,890 --> 00:23:39,160 out to his car to get another camera 488 00:23:43,260 --> 00:23:40,900 because he wanted to get really close up 489 00:23:47,250 --> 00:23:43,270 shots and Robert was standing in the 490 00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:47,260 doorway of the house it's only the roads 491 00:23:52,350 --> 00:23:49,120 and are very close to the front doors 492 00:23:54,780 --> 00:23:52,360 there the car was parked maybe maybe max 493 00:23:57,150 --> 00:23:54,790 on eight feet away in front of the front 494 00:24:00,090 --> 00:23:57,160 door so Robert standing in the front 495 00:24:02,490 --> 00:24:00,100 door Roy is going out through the ice 496 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:02,500 and snow to his car to get a better 497 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:06,370 camera and yet is he Roy has his eyes 498 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:08,050 down because it was ice all over the 499 00:24:11,820 --> 00:24:09,130 place and you didn't want to kill 500 00:24:15,090 --> 00:24:11,830 himself so he didn't see what Robert 501 00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:15,100 then saw suddenly a flash of light a 502 00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:18,910 ball of light came from pipe down low in 503 00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:22,960 front of the boys car and van hit the 504 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:25,840 windshield which Robert saw and yelled 505 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:31,210 to alert boy to Roy then gets out back 506 00:24:35,580 --> 00:24:32,650 see where he's been 507 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:35,590 around for his camera goes to the front 508 00:24:41,130 --> 00:24:38,290 of the car and found what you see in 509 00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:41,140 that next picture this time it's a 510 00:24:48,300 --> 00:24:45,520 tailed j butterfly sitting on the 511 00:24:51,930 --> 00:24:48,310 windshield of his car apparently 512 00:24:54,780 --> 00:24:51,940 deposited by this ball of light now a 513 00:24:59,180 --> 00:24:54,790 little bit of research let us know that 514 00:25:03,030 --> 00:24:59,190 this tale J is also indigenous only to 515 00:25:06,510 --> 00:25:03,040 Southeast Asia it does not live in 516 00:25:09,030 --> 00:25:06,520 holland ever and it definitely again 517 00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:09,040 does not live in holland in the middle 518 00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:10,960 of winter in freezing weather it 519 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:13,840 couldn't it couldn't survive so we then 520 00:25:18,270 --> 00:25:15,850 have a couple pictures of the tail j up 521 00:25:21,660 --> 00:25:18,280 close now there's something kind of 522 00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:21,670 curious about these two insects from 523 00:25:27,660 --> 00:25:25,120 Southeast Asia first of all Roy had 524 00:25:31,170 --> 00:25:27,670 fairly recently come back from a trip 525 00:25:34,110 --> 00:25:31,180 and he was interested in butterflies had 526 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:34,120 been all his life and while he was in 527 00:25:41,370 --> 00:25:38,530 Asia in Jakarta I think he happened to 528 00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:41,380 take a photograph no no actually this 529 00:25:46,350 --> 00:25:43,710 was in Australia what he taken this of 530 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:46,360 exactly one of these butterflies is 531 00:25:54,030 --> 00:25:51,130 tailed J and then the very next spring 532 00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:54,040 remember this is January of 2010 that 533 00:25:58,860 --> 00:25:56,130 all this stuff is going on in Holland 534 00:26:02,940 --> 00:25:58,870 but the following year for the very 535 00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:02,950 first time in Southeast Asia we had 536 00:26:09,330 --> 00:26:05,950 reports of crop circles appearing in the 537 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:09,340 exact areas where these insects normally 538 00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:12,370 live and I have pictures they're showing 539 00:26:19,020 --> 00:26:14,830 you the first one which was in Jakarta 540 00:26:21,570 --> 00:26:19,030 on the island of Java in rice and then 541 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:21,580 there's another crop circle a second one 542 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:26,110 was discovered on January 25th 2011 also 543 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:29,890 on Java and also in rice in that second 544 00:26:34,890 --> 00:26:32,170 picture you can see the races at 545 00:26:36,690 --> 00:26:34,900 different stages of maturity the dark 546 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:36,700 one in the center is ready for harvest 547 00:26:42,540 --> 00:26:39,370 the rice on either side has been more 548 00:26:44,370 --> 00:26:42,550 freshly planted but what was curious to 549 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:44,380 me and what I've wondered I there's no 550 00:26:48,810 --> 00:26:45,730 proof of this but it 551 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:48,820 a very curious coincidence that these 552 00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:51,310 two insects appear where they cannot 553 00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:53,950 they literally just simply cannot be 554 00:26:58,830 --> 00:26:56,400 flying through the air in Holland and 555 00:27:01,830 --> 00:26:58,840 particularly inside Roberts house and 556 00:27:04,140 --> 00:27:01,840 yet the following year almost exactly a 557 00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:04,150 year later here come these two crop 558 00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:07,360 circles in Indonesia right in the area 559 00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:10,000 where these oh you know where these 560 00:27:17,910 --> 00:27:13,600 insects are likely to be found where 561 00:27:21,630 --> 00:27:17,920 they're indigenous so this does uh does 562 00:27:23,670 --> 00:27:21,640 this happen has this anything else tied 563 00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:23,680 him into any other crop circles like any 564 00:27:28,530 --> 00:27:26,740 other type of animal or insect to 565 00:27:32,330 --> 00:27:28,540 anything Alaskan if I wanted to go to 566 00:27:35,460 --> 00:27:32,340 neck you are just asking good questions 567 00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:35,470 all right go back to Robert's page and 568 00:27:42,330 --> 00:27:39,910 to that list of reports what we're going 569 00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:42,340 to do for and talk about to crop circles 570 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:43,750 there are tons of them but i'm going to 571 00:27:49,710 --> 00:27:47,890 pick to that robert he knows whenever a 572 00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:49,720 crop circle is getting ready to happen 573 00:27:55,890 --> 00:27:52,630 in southern holland anywhere in his area 574 00:27:57,540 --> 00:27:55,900 he always knows before it comes and i'm 575 00:27:59,550 --> 00:27:57,550 going to look at a couple of those in a 576 00:28:01,140 --> 00:27:59,560 minute because he can see what they're 577 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:01,150 going to be he knows where they're going 578 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:02,770 to be any often knows in what kind of 579 00:28:08,130 --> 00:28:06,130 crop but these are two American cases 580 00:28:10,350 --> 00:28:08,140 that I thought people would find 581 00:28:13,890 --> 00:28:10,360 interesting you'll see a picture of a 582 00:28:18,690 --> 00:28:13,900 boy with a board in a field of grass in 583 00:28:22,650 --> 00:28:18,700 June 2011 mm-hmm Robert sees paper boy 584 00:28:27,090 --> 00:28:22,660 making us crop circle if you open that 585 00:28:29,730 --> 00:28:27,100 up that's this little story I was Robert 586 00:28:33,630 --> 00:28:29,740 and I are in touch all the time on skype 587 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:33,640 but on this particular afternoon I got a 588 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:36,610 notice from the website there's a 589 00:28:42,210 --> 00:28:39,520 contact form there for people to report 590 00:28:44,610 --> 00:28:42,220 a crop circle to me you know and a 591 00:28:47,370 --> 00:28:44,620 reporter in this little teeny town in 592 00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:47,380 hardy Virginia which I don't exactly 593 00:28:52,380 --> 00:28:49,990 know exactly where that is but I how 594 00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:52,390 this guy had emailed me that a crop 595 00:28:58,030 --> 00:28:55,600 circle had appeared in hardy Virginia he 596 00:29:00,790 --> 00:28:58,040 sent me a couple of pictures of it 597 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:00,800 and asked me if I could tell him whether 598 00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:03,770 it was me and made or not I keep telling 599 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:05,630 people you know I can't tell by looking 600 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:07,850 we have to actually do the science to 601 00:29:15,010 --> 00:29:11,570 know for sure but before I got back to 602 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:15,020 him just for the heck of it I sent one 603 00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:18,530 of the pictures to Robert because a lot 604 00:29:23,230 --> 00:29:20,720 of the circles in Holland in the early 605 00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,240 part of the year occur in grass mm-hmm 606 00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:26,240 and he'd never seen one in grass in any 607 00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:28,910 other country and I wasn't thinking it 608 00:29:34,270 --> 00:29:31,520 didn't even occur to me to ask him about 609 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:34,280 whether this was real I was ascending it 610 00:29:39,220 --> 00:29:35,810 to him because I thought he'd like to 611 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:39,230 see a circle in another country in grass 612 00:29:45,370 --> 00:29:41,930 you know right so he gets the picture 613 00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:45,380 and I guess I turned the computer off 614 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:47,630 and the phone rang two seconds later and 615 00:29:56,860 --> 00:29:52,010 it was Robert and he said watch out that 616 00:29:59,740 --> 00:29:56,870 one is man-made and I said oh any 617 00:30:03,550 --> 00:29:59,750 immediately then tells me yep it's a 618 00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:03,560 young boy with brown hair it's in the 619 00:30:10,810 --> 00:30:06,710 back of his neck he men in a ponytail he 620 00:30:13,930 --> 00:30:10,820 usually wears a black cap he delivers 621 00:30:17,620 --> 00:30:13,940 the papers in this area and his name is 622 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:17,630 Mike not thought that was pretty you 623 00:30:23,860 --> 00:30:20,210 know pretty precise information so I 624 00:30:26,590 --> 00:30:23,870 wrote it all down and then got called 625 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:26,600 the man who had submitted the original 626 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:30,650 photo to me to ask him and when I got 627 00:30:36,610 --> 00:30:33,050 him on the phone I said by any chance is 628 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,620 there a young boy with brown hair in a 629 00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:38,720 ponytail in the back of his neck usually 630 00:30:45,030 --> 00:30:41,630 wears a black cap he delivers the papers 631 00:30:48,460 --> 00:30:45,040 in your area and his name is mike is 632 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:48,470 there such a person and the guy nearly 633 00:30:53,539 --> 00:30:51,890 fell off the chair he said how did you 634 00:30:55,549 --> 00:30:53,549 know that 635 00:30:59,239 --> 00:30:55,559 and I said well if I told you you'll 636 00:31:02,149 --> 00:30:59,249 never believe me rude but in fact it was 637 00:31:05,299 --> 00:31:02,159 me Robert knows it takes one look at a 638 00:31:08,090 --> 00:31:05,309 circle if you pay attention and he knows 639 00:31:09,979 --> 00:31:08,100 and this was one of the American cases 640 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:09,989 now I want to go to one that's more 641 00:31:14,899 --> 00:31:12,210 interesting also in America and much 642 00:31:17,749 --> 00:31:14,909 more recent there was a big to-do about 643 00:31:21,470 --> 00:31:17,759 this but all they had to do was ask 644 00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:21,480 Robert scroll up again among all of the 645 00:31:28,099 --> 00:31:24,720 reports to the photograph of the crop 646 00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:28,109 circle in glr California this is 647 00:31:40,009 --> 00:31:35,519 December 2013 got it okay again this was 648 00:31:43,009 --> 00:31:40,019 reported to me by a not television of a 649 00:31:45,259 --> 00:31:43,019 newspaper reporter before any of this 650 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:45,269 without or it wasn't out and around then 651 00:31:49,999 --> 00:31:47,850 it had just been discovered and this guy 652 00:31:52,639 --> 00:31:50,009 does the exactly the same thing the 653 00:31:55,999 --> 00:31:52,649 first one did he sends me one photograph 654 00:31:57,619 --> 00:31:56,009 of the circle and expects me to tell him 655 00:32:01,129 --> 00:31:57,629 on the phone just by looking at it 656 00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:01,139 whether it's real or not and I again 657 00:32:06,139 --> 00:32:03,299 explained tried very hard to get across 658 00:32:08,330 --> 00:32:06,149 to him that no you can't tell by looking 659 00:32:10,580 --> 00:32:08,340 the people that make these things can 660 00:32:13,849 --> 00:32:10,590 make very fancy things we have to do the 661 00:32:15,259 --> 00:32:13,859 actual work but I he wasn't as all these 662 00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:15,269 most of these reporters they're not 663 00:32:20,450 --> 00:32:16,529 interested you know they don't want to 664 00:32:22,009 --> 00:32:20,460 hear the details but at any rate I told 665 00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:22,019 him I would see if i could get field 666 00:32:26,889 --> 00:32:24,480 workers out there to get it sampled you 667 00:32:30,859 --> 00:32:26,899 know and see what we could find out and 668 00:32:32,989 --> 00:32:30,869 again this one and I don't think I was 669 00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:32,999 I'm not remembering on for sure whether 670 00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:35,519 I might have asked Robert this time but 671 00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:38,399 I sent Robert the photograph and he was 672 00:32:44,139 --> 00:32:41,070 on skype when I sent it so he and I were 673 00:32:48,289 --> 00:32:44,149 talking and he looks at it and says 674 00:32:51,289 --> 00:32:48,299 absolutely immediately but it's man-made 675 00:32:53,479 --> 00:32:51,299 I thought it was too just from looking 676 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:53,489 at it but I don't trust what I think 677 00:33:00,080 --> 00:32:57,570 when I look at him so I say okay what 678 00:33:03,619 --> 00:33:00,090 else can you tell me now remember that 679 00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:03,629 Robert is Dutch he can speak English 680 00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:06,240 some English as English is pretty good 681 00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:06,960 now actually 682 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:10,110 but he doesn't read or write it and he 683 00:33:14,539 --> 00:33:12,809 has no idea where California he has no 684 00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:14,549 idea where anything in the state says he 685 00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:17,279 doesn't travel at all and doesn't have a 686 00:33:21,470 --> 00:33:18,720 clue he probably didn't even know 687 00:33:24,049 --> 00:33:21,480 California was on the west coast but he 688 00:33:27,049 --> 00:33:24,059 immediately starts giving me details and 689 00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:27,059 the very first thing he said to me was 690 00:33:32,690 --> 00:33:29,809 and remember he doesn't write in English 691 00:33:35,690 --> 00:33:32,700 rossetti's custom land work he spells it 692 00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:35,700 out for me on skype and he spells it 693 00:33:42,370 --> 00:33:38,760 perfectly except he left out the 694 00:33:45,529 --> 00:33:42,380 apostrophe after the I Crosetti 695 00:33:47,930 --> 00:33:45,539 apostrophe s he left the hofstra be out 696 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:47,940 he just says process cassetti's custom 697 00:33:52,460 --> 00:33:50,250 land work and I'm thinking what the hell 698 00:33:55,370 --> 00:33:52,470 is customary more you know what it is 699 00:33:57,710 --> 00:33:55,380 but then he keeps on going he says 700 00:33:59,779 --> 00:33:57,720 people in California they know who made 701 00:34:02,990 --> 00:33:59,789 this circle and they have a strong 702 00:34:06,169 --> 00:34:03,000 connection to this Crosetti custom land 703 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:06,179 workplace and then he says I see a 704 00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:09,690 tractor driver and he's he's not making 705 00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:12,000 the circle he's working in a field 706 00:34:19,399 --> 00:34:15,030 across the street and he's there on 707 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:19,409 Saturday now the the reporter who had 708 00:34:24,849 --> 00:34:22,050 called me I was calling me on a Monday 709 00:34:28,250 --> 00:34:24,859 and told me it had been made on Monday 710 00:34:31,399 --> 00:34:28,260 Robert says no it was made on Saturday 711 00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:31,409 and he sees this guy sitting on a on a 712 00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:34,500 tractor working in a field nearby who 713 00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:39,599 sees the people who are making it even 714 00:34:43,369 --> 00:34:41,280 was very clear that this guy on the 715 00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:43,379 tractor had nothing to do with making it 716 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:46,470 he was simply an observer so the first 717 00:34:51,260 --> 00:34:48,570 thing I did while I was still on skype 718 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:51,270 with him I googled Chris Eddie's custom 719 00:34:55,899 --> 00:34:54,450 land work plus California to see if I 720 00:34:58,220 --> 00:34:55,909 could you know if there was such a place 721 00:35:01,880 --> 00:34:58,230 and if you scroll down you're going to 722 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:01,890 see the map and sure enough there is a 723 00:35:09,380 --> 00:35:06,330 Crosetti custom land work operation only 724 00:35:10,570 --> 00:35:09,390 20 miles south of where the circle had 725 00:35:12,850 --> 00:35:10,580 been found 726 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:12,860 it's not like I'm getting surprised when 727 00:35:17,260 --> 00:35:14,930 Robert does this anymore but I was a 728 00:35:20,830 --> 00:35:17,270 little surprised here because he had the 729 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:20,840 name you know so correctly so I told him 730 00:35:24,910 --> 00:35:23,090 right then that gee whiz there really is 731 00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:24,920 a Crusaders custom land work and I've 732 00:35:29,530 --> 00:35:27,440 got the map here so then he went on a 733 00:35:32,050 --> 00:35:29,540 little bit more about this guy on the 734 00:35:35,170 --> 00:35:32,060 tractor and said that he was I think he 735 00:35:40,060 --> 00:35:35,180 told me that he was not he was a Mexican 736 00:35:42,670 --> 00:35:40,070 or an immigrant of some kind and gave me 737 00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:42,680 a number of details then about the 738 00:35:48,430 --> 00:35:45,550 people who actually made the circle now 739 00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:48,440 I've got a picture in there the tractor 740 00:35:53,260 --> 00:35:50,960 because what I did was I got a telephone 741 00:35:56,050 --> 00:35:53,270 number for cassetti's custom land work 742 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:56,060 and I called them and I got a woman 743 00:36:01,330 --> 00:35:58,130 named Gloria who's one of the owners 744 00:36:04,210 --> 00:36:01,340 apparently and she confirmed that yes 745 00:36:07,330 --> 00:36:04,220 they had a man working on one of their 746 00:36:09,610 --> 00:36:07,340 tractors in a field right across the 747 00:36:12,510 --> 00:36:09,620 road from where that crop circle was 748 00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:12,520 being made and yes he was there on 749 00:36:20,770 --> 00:36:18,110 Saturday not monday so I was kind of 750 00:36:22,810 --> 00:36:20,780 amazed with all that my computer I had 751 00:36:25,780 --> 00:36:22,820 an old computer then it died right after 752 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:25,790 all of this and so I wasn't kept 753 00:36:30,490 --> 00:36:27,650 informed about some of the stuff that 754 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:30,500 was going on on the internet about the 755 00:36:34,630 --> 00:36:32,930 you know about this circle there are a 756 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:34,640 lot of people debating whether it was 757 00:36:39,130 --> 00:36:37,370 real or not nobody takes samples they 758 00:36:42,580 --> 00:36:39,140 just like to look at him and make up 759 00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:42,590 their minds but you know after talking 760 00:36:46,510 --> 00:36:44,990 to Gloria I already knew that this this 761 00:36:48,970 --> 00:36:46,520 tractor driver was there and so I 762 00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:48,980 figured they'd Roberts description of 763 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:51,470 the people who made the circle if you 764 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:52,910 scroll down a little bit farther you'll 765 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:54,650 see a couple pictures of the circle 766 00:37:03,640 --> 00:36:58,610 close up and then below that you're 767 00:37:05,350 --> 00:37:03,650 going to see it's on a page accountant 768 00:37:07,930 --> 00:37:05,360 know what the hell paint it is but it's 769 00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:07,940 a drawing I because Roberts description 770 00:37:12,610 --> 00:37:10,310 in dutchess sometimes I don't always 771 00:37:15,940 --> 00:37:12,620 understand it I asked him to make a 772 00:37:19,210 --> 00:37:15,950 drawing of this guy that he saw actually 773 00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:19,220 making the crop circle and I put in all 774 00:37:25,359 --> 00:37:21,960 the details that he got 775 00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:25,369 oh he said this guy had a very wide 776 00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:29,599 unusually wide mouth bushy sideburns 777 00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:33,060 that were kind of like men used to wear 778 00:37:37,609 --> 00:37:34,800 at the turn of the century you know 779 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:37,619 these mutton-chop kind of things oh yeah 780 00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:41,010 he was wearing dark glasses and he had a 781 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:45,390 cap with some red in it and then he told 782 00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:48,930 me that there was somebody else who was 783 00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:51,599 broad-shouldered and not too tall and 784 00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:54,089 this guy was very pleased with himself 785 00:37:59,780 --> 00:37:57,119 but he was in the summer years of his 786 00:38:01,730 --> 00:37:59,790 life and then he said there are other 787 00:38:03,290 --> 00:38:01,740 people there working with this guy and 788 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:03,300 who were from the general area who are 789 00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:06,450 local this other guy was not and he 790 00:38:11,329 --> 00:38:08,640 describes some of the clothes that they 791 00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:11,339 were wearing but I was unable to find 792 00:38:16,490 --> 00:38:13,980 anybody who would tell me we there were 793 00:38:18,349 --> 00:38:16,500 people who saw the guys in the field 794 00:38:22,940 --> 00:38:18,359 making it but I was unable to find 795 00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:22,950 anybody who merm for me this description 796 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:25,710 the Robert gave me of the main guy and 797 00:38:29,570 --> 00:38:27,810 you know responsible for all this the 798 00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:29,580 guy who was so pleased with himself and 799 00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:33,240 the people that were seen him so I don't 800 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:35,940 know for a fact that the description is 801 00:38:41,630 --> 00:38:38,160 accurate but if i had to put money on it 802 00:38:44,420 --> 00:38:41,640 i would bet you absolutely that it was 803 00:38:47,060 --> 00:38:44,430 Robert had also told me that the circle 804 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:47,070 was made for a practical reason and that 805 00:38:55,460 --> 00:38:51,210 a Rob or Robbie and also a guy named 806 00:39:02,450 --> 00:38:55,470 John were involved and kept seeing the 807 00:39:04,339 --> 00:39:02,460 words cannot say CA n n OT SI y and it 808 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:04,349 turned out when i got a computer working 809 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:08,010 again that there was a video that these 810 00:39:13,940 --> 00:39:10,170 people who had made this had put up on 811 00:39:16,250 --> 00:39:13,950 the internet a very spooky video and it 812 00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:16,260 looks fake as hell to me but these guys 813 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:17,849 are driving along the road you know and 814 00:39:21,410 --> 00:39:19,650 they see lights and movement in the 815 00:39:23,810 --> 00:39:21,420 field and they stopped the car and they 816 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:23,820 get out and it goes through this whole 817 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:26,730 elaborate thing but to set up for you 818 00:39:31,220 --> 00:39:28,530 know people trying to get people to 819 00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:31,230 believe something spooky created this 820 00:39:35,330 --> 00:39:33,839 crop circle and it also turns out that 821 00:39:38,210 --> 00:39:35,340 there was a Rob and there 822 00:39:40,370 --> 00:39:38,220 was a John involved although i don't 823 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:40,380 know personally you know what they look 824 00:39:47,390 --> 00:39:44,370 like now in the video the words cannot 825 00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:47,400 say appear over and over in fact i think 826 00:39:54,110 --> 00:39:52,260 it was in the title of the video so you 827 00:39:56,930 --> 00:39:54,120 know there you have a couple of examples 828 00:39:58,910 --> 00:39:56,940 of him not even knowing you know where 829 00:40:01,700 --> 00:39:58,920 this is he'd literally dozen over 830 00:40:04,510 --> 00:40:01,710 California is he looks at one picture 831 00:40:09,410 --> 00:40:04,520 and this is the amount of detail that 832 00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:09,420 yeah hey Nancy I got a question for you 833 00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:14,220 is is his abilities strictly restricted 834 00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:16,800 to crop circles in the formula oh we 835 00:40:20,180 --> 00:40:18,510 really we're going to get there we're in 836 00:40:22,070 --> 00:40:20,190 one thing okay okay because I've been 837 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:22,080 taking notes and I'm and you know that's 838 00:40:27,830 --> 00:40:24,210 this interests showing you some of the 839 00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:27,840 crop circle stuff first because and I 840 00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:29,670 mean that's crazy enough but when we 841 00:40:35,570 --> 00:40:31,950 start to get you getting into some of 842 00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:35,580 the other stuff it's so much farther out 843 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:37,680 what I'm trying to do is to establish a 844 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:42,050 little bit that people can relate to and 845 00:40:46,910 --> 00:40:44,250 realize i mean if robert can do this 846 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:46,920 from across the ocean accurately which 847 00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:48,450 he does all the time these are just a 848 00:40:54,050 --> 00:40:51,660 couple of examples of it maybe they can 849 00:40:56,690 --> 00:40:54,060 begin to understand or accept that I'm 850 00:41:01,820 --> 00:40:56,700 telling the truth about some of this 851 00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:01,830 other much wilder stuff now I thought 852 00:41:08,590 --> 00:41:03,720 the next thing we should go to that 853 00:41:12,260 --> 00:41:08,600 makes logical sense might be the recent 854 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:12,270 Robert have seen many many crop circles 855 00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:16,050 form himself there have only now been 856 00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:18,630 one to two thousand five of us five 857 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:22,350 different occasions on which he had an 858 00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:25,650 eyewitness somebody else with him the 859 00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:27,870 first one is me and if you scroll all 860 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:30,660 the way down to the very bottom of these 861 00:41:38,450 --> 00:41:34,410 reports on his page it says august two 862 00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:38,460 thousand and one the netherlands this is 863 00:41:44,540 --> 00:41:41,730 the description that i did of the one 864 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:44,550 the first one that I saw happen while I 865 00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:46,170 was with Robert 866 00:41:51,110 --> 00:41:48,960 and unsolved mysteries did a thing on it 867 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:51,120 and as a video there they did a very 868 00:41:56,780 --> 00:41:53,370 good job actually of recreating what 869 00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:56,790 actually happened and the pictures here 870 00:42:00,740 --> 00:41:58,410 not good because I didn't know how to 871 00:42:03,050 --> 00:42:00,750 make them good back then but the basic 872 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:03,060 story was that I had arrived as I 873 00:42:09,230 --> 00:42:06,450 usually did in July or August sometimes 874 00:42:10,670 --> 00:42:09,240 and I always stayed in Roberts room that 875 00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:10,680 which is the nice one at the back of the 876 00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:13,680 house and so the balcony and the field 877 00:42:18,350 --> 00:42:15,960 is right there I mean if you open those 878 00:42:20,180 --> 00:42:18,360 floors ceiling glass doors which I 879 00:42:21,830 --> 00:42:20,190 always did because as hot as the Dickens 880 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:21,840 and they don't have air conditioning and 881 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:24,210 they don't use air conditioning like we 882 00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:28,170 do mm-hmm so I always have them open and 883 00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:30,030 I can look right out and see the field 884 00:42:34,250 --> 00:42:31,920 the very first thing i do when i arrived 885 00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:34,260 in holland every summer is go to that 886 00:42:39,650 --> 00:42:37,110 balcony and take pictures of that field 887 00:42:42,350 --> 00:42:39,660 so i can document what it looks like 888 00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:42,360 when i arrived because i know darn well 889 00:42:47,260 --> 00:42:44,400 it's probably not going to look like 890 00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:47,270 that if i'm there for two or three weeks 891 00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:49,680 so that's what i did in this case i took 892 00:42:54,020 --> 00:42:51,990 a picture of the field there's nothing 893 00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:54,030 there but the crop which happens to be 894 00:42:58,690 --> 00:42:56,730 string beans in this particular year 895 00:43:01,250 --> 00:42:58,700 this is back in two thousand and one 896 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:01,260 then i scroll down you'll see the back 897 00:43:06,890 --> 00:43:04,290 of the house and that room at the top 898 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:06,900 with the the balcony around it that's 899 00:43:11,690 --> 00:43:08,970 Roberts bedroom where I stay when I'm 900 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:11,700 there and you can see it looks right 901 00:43:16,850 --> 00:43:14,130 smack out and towards the back where 902 00:43:18,770 --> 00:43:16,860 that field is hmm now what's important 903 00:43:21,380 --> 00:43:18,780 there in that picture is the note is the 904 00:43:23,390 --> 00:43:21,390 bedroom itself which the great big tall 905 00:43:25,250 --> 00:43:23,400 windows and floor-to-ceiling glass doors 906 00:43:27,260 --> 00:43:25,260 which were open on the night this 907 00:43:29,450 --> 00:43:27,270 happened and then notice in the lower 908 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:29,460 left there's another room lit up that's 909 00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:32,250 the kitchen mm-hmm that's important that 910 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:33,750 both of those rooms look out towards 911 00:43:40,090 --> 00:43:36,690 field Robert and I had been lugging 912 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:40,100 around electro magnet on others and geo 913 00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:42,570 magnetometers that year I was working on 914 00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:45,440 a project for dr. William roll the 915 00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:48,660 parapsychologist and he had wanted me to 916 00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:51,420 document electromagnetic and/or 917 00:43:57,579 --> 00:43:54,140 geomagnetic variations 918 00:44:00,130 --> 00:43:57,589 in the soils where all the crop circles 919 00:44:03,309 --> 00:44:00,140 that year were in Holland to see if we 920 00:44:05,470 --> 00:44:03,319 could find any aberration you see and i 921 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:05,480 had spent a couple of very hot weeks 922 00:44:09,819 --> 00:44:08,450 lugging this stuff all over the place to 923 00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:09,829 every one of the circles that had 924 00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:12,710 happened taking detailed grid 925 00:44:17,019 --> 00:44:14,569 measurements where you walk you know 926 00:44:18,910 --> 00:44:17,029 about 3-4 feet you take a measurement 927 00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:18,920 another three or four feet another three 928 00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:21,440 or four feet and you crisscross 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